Holiday Wish List

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forcefield58
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I love hearing what you all are asking for, hoping for, buying yourself, for the Holidays.

What's your top item you'd love to get or will buy yourself?

For myself, I'm hoping for the new EAForce 3 headset for the 360, flight stick for Ace Combat 6 and Dirt (the game, not real dirt!!).

I already bought myself Mass Effect and Assassin's Creed (hoping the wife doesn't find out).

Also, the wife asked for a Serger, one of those things that has 4 or more spools of thread on it and feeds down to sew fabric...I guess a companion to a sewing machine. You won't believe what I had to pay for a high quality Serger (her other 2 fell apart after a year). I had to fork over a bit under $2k for the darn thing. So, I'm hoping I get my piddly wish list, at least!

Cheers/Frank

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forcefield58
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Sound
Bill Loguidice wrote:
forcefield58 wrote:

Updated: I checked the net and it looks like I'll need a stereo receiver in line with the 360 and LCD TV in order to take advantage of the optical audio. Still investigating though...

I've got the audio port on the 360 connector. I checked my LCD manual and it says I have a 1 x optical S/PDIF audio (TOSLINK) as an output. The illustration in the manual shows it being connected to an audio system. It definitely looks like a fiber-like connection. I'll have to figure out if it'll work connected to the 360 and see if there is any audio difference. Thanks for the help. Learning something new everyday!!

Cheers/Frank

That's the exact connection, and yes, it's to output to a surround sound receiver (though some newer receivers have a digital connection that don't use optical - in fact, on my Sony Dreamsystem receiver, the optical audio connection is a secondary input) and all that implies (minimum 5.1 speakers). If that's only an output on your TV, then it won't work with the 360, since it would need to be an input. Really all the optical connection is good for is true digital surround sound (like Dolby Digital 5.1). You can get a surround sound experience with just the RCA cables, but it's not quite as good (the Gamecube and Wii use this connection and are able to do a surround sound format (usually Dolby Pro Logic II), but it's not as good as the digital ones).

That makes sense. So, if I had a surround sound system, I'd be in luck. Strange how the TV has that as an output only, so I guess I'd still connect it to a surround sound receiver. The 360 would also connect to the surround sound receiver, and then, I'd have "surround" sound. I was thinking about getting one now that I have the 360 HD DVD drive, for movies mainly. Certainly woudn't want the wife to know she could play her audio CD's on it as I'd never get people out of my area!!! :)

Cheers/Frank


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Bill Loguidice
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forcefield58 wrote:

Updated: I checked the net and it looks like I'll need a stereo receiver in line with the 360 and LCD TV in order to take advantage of the optical audio. Still investigating though...

I've got the audio port on the 360 connector. I checked my LCD manual and it says I have a 1 x optical S/PDIF audio (TOSLINK) as an output. The illustration in the manual shows it being connected to an audio system. It definitely looks like a fiber-like connection. I'll have to figure out if it'll work connected to the 360 and see if there is any audio difference. Thanks for the help. Learning something new everyday!!

Cheers/Frank

That's the exact connection, and yes, it's to output to a surround sound receiver (though some newer receivers have a digital connection that don't use optical - in fact, on my Sony Dreamsystem receiver, the optical audio connection is a secondary input) and all that implies (minimum 5.1 speakers). If that's only an output on your TV, then it won't work with the 360, since it would need to be an input. Really all the optical connection is good for is true digital surround sound (like Dolby Digital 5.1). You can get a surround sound experience with just the RCA cables, but it's not quite as good (the Gamecube and Wii use this connection and are able to do a surround sound format (usually Dolby Pro Logic II), but it's not as good as the digital ones).



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Optical Connection
Bill Loguidice wrote:

Sounds like yours definitely came with component cables, Frank, so you're all set (especially if you set and can see the HD resolutions in your 360 video settings). Your receiver or TV would need to support optical audio for you to bother with it anyway. Look here: http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/328/cableswitch5ia.jpg. The optical audio port is to the right. It's the audio connection that shines (red) light to send its signal. You need your own cable to plug into that.

Updated: I checked the net and it looks like I'll need a stereo receiver in line with the 360 and LCD TV in order to take advantage of the optical audio. Still investigating though...

I've got the audio port on the 360 connector. I checked my LCD manual and it says I have a 1 x optical S/PDIF audio (TOSLINK) as an output. The illustration in the manual shows it being connected to an audio system. It definitely looks like a fiber-like connection. I'll have to figure out if it'll work connected to the 360 and see if there is any audio difference. Thanks for the help. Learning something new everyday!!

Cheers/Frank


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Bill Loguidice
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Sounds like yours definitely came with component cables, Frank, so you're all set (especially if you set and can see the HD resolutions in your 360 video settings). Your receiver or TV would need to support optical audio for you to bother with it anyway. Look here: http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/328/cableswitch5ia.jpg. The optical audio port is to the right. It's the audio connection that shines (red) light to send its signal. You need your own cable to plug into that.



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Audio Connections
Bill Loguidice wrote:

The 360 comes with composite cables, which don't support hi-def. You have to buy component cables separately. When you plug in the component cable, it has an optical audio input where it plugs in. You just plug your optical audio cable into that and don't bother with the RCA cables at the end.

I don't know if I agree with the Bluetooth statement, as both the PS3 and Wii use it for their controllers if I understand that correctly (and even the 360 may use a modified form), and there appears to be no data transmission delay. Wireless IR is a good full bandwidth solution though, as that's how my Sony surround sound setup works wirelessly with my rear speakers - there's a large IR transmitter that sends a full bandwidth signal wirelessly to my rear speakers. All my rear speakers need is one power outlet, which is not an issue for me since there's one behind the sofa. That eliminates a lot of wiring hassles. The bigger the IR transmitter and receiver, the harder it is to block.



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Now I'm confused again. The 360 I have came with a cable that has 6 RCA connections; one part of the cable has the red, blue, green ends, and the other is the audio part that has red, white and yellow. The end that plugs into the 360 has a switch for standard TV and HDTV. I have this cable jacked into one of the component connections on the LCD HDTV and have the audio split so the headset can be jacked into the headset transceiver.

My question is, which of the connections is optical audio. I guess when you say optical, I'm thinking fiber optic connection.

You say the the 360 only comes with composite cables, but mine came with component cables...now confused more than ever. How do you get around the connector that connects into the 360 if you buy separate component cables for use with the Xbox?

Please help with my confused state as I hope I'm getting HD output from the 360 with the cable hookup I'm using.

Cheers and thanks for the help/Frank


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Bill Loguidice
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The 360 comes with composite cables, which don't support hi-def. You have to buy component cables separately. When you plug in the component cable, it has an optical audio input where it plugs in. You just plug your optical audio cable into that and don't bother with the RCA cables at the end.

I don't know if I agree with the Bluetooth statement, as both the PS3 and Wii use it for their controllers if I understand that correctly (and even the 360 may use a modified form), and there appears to be no data transmission delay. Wireless IR is a good full bandwidth solution though, as that's how my Sony surround sound setup works wirelessly with my rear speakers - there's a large IR transmitter that sends a full bandwidth signal wirelessly to my rear speakers. All my rear speakers need is one power outlet, which is not an issue for me since there's one behind the sofa. That eliminates a lot of wiring hassles. The bigger the IR transmitter and receiver, the harder it is to block.



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forcefield58
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Optical Audio

So you're not using the component cable that comes with the 360? How do you get optical audio out of the 360. I checked the back of mine and don't see it.

I gave the headset a trial run last night on two different games, Assassin's Creed and COD 4. In COD 4 I could hear the footsteps of the other players when they got near me (pretty creepy) and in AC I was hearing all the background conversations between the NPC's as I was sneaking around Jerusalem. It'll take awhile to get used to with the way the microphone works. I have it set to momentarily mute the game audio whenever I'm talking on it, and I also hear my voice in the background. There's a setting to turn all that off, but according to the book this gives you the best performance.

I tried to find specs on the X3, but all I found were write-ups describing features. Not sure I agree with this one I pulled from the Turtle Beach site though. What do you think?

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Even Bluetooth®, another form of RF, can introduce a delay into the audio signal that can be annoying during game play. Wireless IR is instantaneous, so there's no lag between action on the screen and the sound on your headphones. Although IR requires that the headphones and transmitter be directly positioned, you're always in 'line-of-sight' of your TV when playing games, (unless you can see around corners) so that isn't a problem.
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I have at long last joined

I have at long last joined this gen by getting a Wii with Metroid Prime 3 and Mario Party 8. Have since got myself an RGB SCART lead for 60hz display and the excellent Mercury Meltdown Revolution. Been playing Wii Sports with the kids in the main but I started on Prime 3 last night and have got to the 1st boss - the remote+nunchuck control scheme is excellent.

For some cheap PC gaming give Peggle a try - its a very odd but addictive pachinko-style game. You get the trial for free (just google "peggle") and its half-price from PopCap at present. Its very odd becuase I find it addictive and due to the amount of luck involved , I feel that I shouldn't feel that way about it.

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Well, I did get myself one thing gaming related for christmas.

I got an original print run (1983) orange eidtion of the "Secrets of Sosaria" Ultima III cluebook. This has the companies phone number written in pen under the address (which is the old po box 99 andover one).

Of note, The address is for the PO Box 99 Andover, which was origin's address before Ultima III released.

When Ultima III was released they had moved to the 340 Harvey Road address. According to the Collectable Ultima, another 1983 print run exists that has the 340 harvey road address on it. So I gather there is two 1983 eidtions (both orange) and one 1987 edition (more yellow than the stark orange). Tho some early Apple II released had Garriots Texas address so I'd be really curious if any cluebooks existed with that address...

None of the printing has faded and its in excellent condition! Its a very good copy :) hehehe I'm kinda chuffed. been chasing a good copy of this for a long time. Its much easier to find the later printing (1987 edition iirc).

-- Stu --

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Christmas Loot

Well, I guess I've been a bad boy this year 'cuz I didn't get any game related stuff! I did net a subscription to Mac Life, though. ;) Not sure how that's going to turn out.

Anyone else here into hot sauce and imported/microbrew beer? That's what's been consuming my pocket change lately.

I finally finished up with AnaCapri: The Dream (thumbs down) and am starting a new game called Still Life. SO far, it's been very impressive, and I hope to get a positive review out of it. I don't know if I mentioned this earlier, but I found about a dozen or so adventure games from Big Lots for about $4 each. I took'em all home. If you have a Big Lots near you, I'd suggest peeking in here and seeing if they have software. The usual customer to that store probably doesn't even have a PC, so you may be surprised at what you can find for dirt cheap.

Anyone have any leads on great post-christmas deals???

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