Matt Chat 133: Gothic Time

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It's Gothic time! Yes, finally, after countless requests, Matt Chat covers the 2001 German CRPG Gothic. Of course, this game launched a trilogy, and apparently Risen is keeping the lineage alive. Lots of fun stuff in this game, and some pioneering stuff like the ability to skin animals (you can even get their teeth and claws!), cook food (grilled chicken!), and much more. Plagued by one of the slowest starts in any CRPG, though, it hasn't attracted the attention that it really deserves. If you can get through the first 3-4 hours of it, you'll be hooked. Just don't blow all your ore at the swamp weed stand!

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Tuco40
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Good Lord. The review was

Good Lord. The review was funny. The humor worked. Now the guy's depressed and talking about cancelling everything. The internet truly blows sometimes.

Matt seems to take it very personally when people don't donate. I come on here about once a week and have never given a dime. Why? Well, there just isn't enough content or forum interaction to justify my donations. As much as I like the interviews and reviews, there just aren't enough of them. There are plenty of youtubers out there doing in depth reviews who don't seem as donation obsessed as Matt is.

Look, clearly the guy isn't doing this to get rich, but the constant begging and pleading for donations drives me nuts. He's starting to remind me of a homeless subway magician who puts on a decent show and then burns his cape and his hat when no one gives him a handout.

I hope that wasn't too harsh, because i really do like this site and i hope Matt Barton keeps doing his magic tricks, even if no one's paying.

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Canceling the Show

I think you read it the wrong way. He said he's doing it this way because it's fun. Also, he stated that he's not getting a lot in donations. Basically he's saying that people aren't paying him enough to justify doing the show their way. If you want Matt Chat reviews done a specific way I'm sure you could work out a funding deal. If you don't want to do so, then you need to accept that he's going to do things his own way. Why would anyone spend a bunch of time and effort trying to make others happy when they don't give anything back? I think his point of view is rather justified here.

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Exactly

That's it exactly, Mazoku! If somebody wants me to do Matt Chat in a serious, History Channel way, then by all means, fund it. Let's sign a contract and I'll happily produce the episodes however you want.

On a personal note, I think you're a jerk if you regularly watch the show, have plenty of disposable income, and have never donated. Let me explain how it looks from my perspective before you flame on, though. The truth is I do these episodes on my personal time, usually taking anywhere from 12 to 18, possibly days to get them done. Gothic is a good example of one that took forever, because I had to spend several days just playing the game to try to get far enough in to do a decent video. Sure, I enjoyed the experience, but would I have chosen to play Gothic just on a whim? I doubt it. I took the time because my fans have been requesting it for a long time, I selected a random suggestion, and thus went with it.

I regularly attend the Renaissance Festival here in Minnesota and there's a very Matt Chat like situation there with the shows. While the festival folks let them perform their shows there, they DO NOT GET PAID BY THE FESTIVAL. Thus, if you see a cool guy juggling or something more sophisticated, like the comedy acts or sword fighting, they ask you to donate to them. A lot of jerks will sit there, love the show, and then saunter right past that donation basket like they don't even see it. Maybe they try to make themselves feel better by saying things like you do--"Well, it was good, but not long enough," or "I liked it--but not enough to donate," or "Eh, I'm sure others will donate so I don't have to." No matter how you try to justify it, unless you got your ass up and walked out of that show in disgust, you SHOULD donate, even if it's just a dollar. Believe me, those performers would be THRILLED if everybody that watched (sometimes hundreds!) would just toss a dollar into that basket. Instead, they have to rely on a tiny fraction of good people, people who UNDERSTAND the work involved, and who are generous--NOT necessarily rich, usually the contrary!

When I go to these festivals, I *always* make sure I have a roll of five dollar bills. Unless I truly hate the show and/or the performers (never happened), I don't even think about it--just put the fiver in their basket. If they have a CD for sale or DVD, I might get that instead, but in any case I will give them something. To do anything else, in my opinion, is not just rude, but it's actually a way to make sure the festival sucks next year. If nobody pays these performers, they won't come back, and then what the hell will be the fun of going to this festival that I love???

In short, if you like the show, you should donate. I don't ask for anything but a dollar here, folks, and if that's really too much, you're either a jerk or broke. My advice to the former is go watch AVGN or whatever else you can find and bother me no more. To folks who are really poor, you have my sympathy, but I hope you are actively looking for a job and taking advantage of whatever help is offered by your community and local government. I'm as liberal as anyone, but it pains me to see people who "refuse on ethical grounds" to take a job flipping burgers or whatever else they can get in these tough times. I've done my share, believe me, scrubbing toilets and picking up garbage, whatever I could get that would pay me. It might seem demeaning, embarrassing, or whatever, but none of us should feel "too good" to do it if it keeps you off welfare.

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Tuco40
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Wait a second ...

Gimme a break, Matt. So you suffered for your art and played Gothic just to please your fans? What a trouper!

DISCLAIMER: The above comment is written by a non-donating "broke asshole."

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I hope I didn't offend you

I hope I didn't offend you unjustly, man. Like I said, if you don't like the show or don't have the cash, fine, don't donate. That's just logic.

The only people I have a problem with are folks who enjoy the show regularly, have plenty of income, and simply choose not to pitch in. That's basic selfish behavior in my opinion. It's similar to leeches on BBSs, if you remember those days. Just because you CAN download or watch something for free doesn't make it right. It's like leaving a restaurant without tipping your server. Sure, you CAN do it, but is it the right thing to do? I realize people might think I'm an idiot for clinging to such views of honor and doing what's just, but I was raised on CRPGs after all...:)

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Nathaniel Tolbert
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I enjoyed the video. I liked

I enjoyed the video. I liked the MST3K or RiffTrax. Some may find it sophomoric or low grade, but I am highly entertained by that style of voice over. I played Gothic, and the 2nd and 3rd sequel. I don't really care for the series, and I have a feeling that something is lost in the translation to English. I don't know why, but early 3d games just do not do it for me. 2d is always interesting, old 3d is intriguing due to the the technical issues that are worked past to create it in the first place. I found the retrospective funny and entertaining. Please keep up the good work. I cannot wait until you release the next one.

-Edit- I would also like to say that I enjoy the ale of the week at the end of the show. I don't drink but I like to hear what you think of the different brews that are suggested to you or sent to you. Very nice.

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Gothic, much like the recent

Gothic, much like the recent Skyrim is a sacred Cow in some gameing circles. Matt Liked (in fact i beleive he said it first thing even before the game footage started) yet people see the jokes as a slight to the game. I have watched many matts chats (not all yet, there are alot) and his style has changed, but this one was not unlike the last 10 he has done.. And so much venom from a couple people. I guess you make fun of some slighlty clunky game mechanics from the past (that we all accept was the norm back then) and you break a few rose tinted glasses. MATT liked the game and RECOMNDED it.. something he normally does with a grain of salt or some condition "if you like XXX type of game try it" he just said he liked this one.. to me that is pretty high praise.

I'm trying to figure out.. the last 10+ matt chats on game are pretty much the same (humour, style, etc).. so why are all these people watching still? its not like he switched gears overnight.. I guess that says something in itself.. it wasnt as bad as suggested till he Picked on the game somebody loved. GROW UP.. Matt is an equal opertunity jokester.. he makes jokes at all games expense. if you just noticed it on one game .. well that makes the problem yours, not Matts. if i had seen (hooo boy this reminds me of the NEWS telling us all the opertunities terriosts could use) people complaining about the last 10 , then i might take all this with more faith.. but when the "whiney" peopel only come out on specfic games.. its not worth the time to even type waht I did.. but I did for Matt as I dont want him to quit. I dont get his jokes all the time, some make me cringe, but some .. more often then not make me smile or even laugh out loud for a sec.. I dont alwasy agree but it never bent me out of shape (to much)..

So i say.. keep on doing what you like.. I enjoy it.

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I liked this review, it brings back memories of playing the game. The game was slow at first but got addictive and fun once you get some skills and start moving outside of the old camp. I also enjoyed the aspect of re-visiting areas while moving between camps and killing the low level monsters that gave you so much trouble at the start of the game, it makes you feel powerful and that you have come a long way.

Gothic 2 was also decent but not as new and exciting as the first one.

Keep it up Matt I really enjoy your videos, you have character!

Shawn Delahunty
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I for one enjoyed it

Please don't get discouraged Matt. Personally, I very much liked your humorous comments in this video, and in most of the others, and I'm a HUGE fan of the Gothic series. (I got started with Gothic 3 as part of a triple-RPG pack from Worst Buy, and actually like it better than #2. Haven't played enough of #1 to decide about it yet.)

I understand being discouraged by negative comments, I really do. I'm still struggling in the throes of finishing this @#*% book on the philosophy of designing embedded software. One negative or questioning comment, even from someone who hasn't even seen any of the first-draft, and my wife has to pry me off the ceiling---I go spiraling down into frustration and despair. But truthfully, I'm slowly coming to believe that "bad comments" are like "bad press"--there is no such thing as "bad press."

Besides, opening yourself to critique means you are DOING SOMETHING. And that is meaningful. That is purposeful. That is impressive and dignified and admirable. Why? Because DOING SOMETHING, whether immediately successful or not, differentiates you from so many people in this world.

Here's a quote I've printed out and stuck up on my wall:

"To escape criticism... do nothing, say nothing, be nothing."
-Elbert Hubbard

What good is that?!? DON'T BE NOTHING!
Failure is an illusion. What lazy people call 'failure', is merely a step on the way to success. True "Failure" only comes if you quit.
-me

Cheers,
-Shawn

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Rowdy Rob
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Awesome!
bitsweep wrote:

Besides, opening yourself to critique means you are DOING SOMETHING. And that is meaningful. That is purposeful. That is impressive and dignified and admirable. Why? Because DOING SOMETHING, whether immediately successful or not, differentiates you from so many people in this world.

Here's a quote I've printed out and stuck up on my wall:

"To escape criticism... do nothing, say nothing, be nothing."
-Elbert Hubbard

Awesome, awesome, awesome! Excellent post, Bitsweep!

Good to see you posting again, BTW!

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