Matt Chat 149: Diablo

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With all the attention of the CRPG community focused on Diablo III, I thought it only fitting to give a retrospective on the 1996 game that launched the franchise--the original Diablo! Reducing the complex CRPG gameplay mechanics to utter simplicity, Blizzard offered up a mesmerizing clickfest that's enjoyed by thousands today. It also introduced "Battle.net," a value-add that allowed groups of players to co-op or compete online--for free!

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clok1966
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I just relized I havent

I just relized I havent revisted the original Diablo since I won it. I didnt play through with each character, just the rouge. I played through with each in Diablo II.. lost my copy and bought a new one and registerd it on battle.net and have since played my necro and Amazon through with plans to do the rest 'someday". I had forgot the charm of the small town, how it was all basicly one dungeon (here I was under the Impression FATE did that new. not copied as well as the rest of the gameplay of Diablo). Some comments.. Did Diablo make you click for each attack? isnt ti like the 2nd and 3rd where you can hold? wow.. if not.. Also.. stand by barrel, cant you hold Shift (or alt) to stand in place and attack at range (again like the 2nd and 3rd?) or is that also missing from Diablo? I know as a range character you HAVE to do that or pretty much die horribly alot :) Only 16 levels? I do remeber one thing about Diablo that stuck out in my mind "WAY TO SHORT!" so 16 level may be correct. I am tempted to fire it up, but am so addicted to 3 right now.. and I supsect some burn out by the time I finish.. But I am pretty sure your trip down memory lane will have me firing it up sometime.

other comments.. NANCY DREW does not deserve the prime head level location!!!!!! :) hehehe next we will see barbie Adventures up there! J/K i do hear they are actually pretty OK games.. but I still think the gold box sets, or even something modern deserves that space :)

Matt Barton
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Diablo 1
clok1966 wrote:

I just relized I havent revisted the original Diablo since I won it. I didnt play through with each character, just the rouge. I played through with each in Diablo II.. lost my copy and bought a new one and registerd it on battle.net and have since played my necro and Amazon through with plans to do the rest 'someday". I had forgot the charm of the small town, how it was all basicly one dungeon (here I was under the Impression FATE did that new. not copied as well as the rest of the gameplay of Diablo). Some comments.. Did Diablo make you click for each attack? isnt ti like the 2nd and 3rd where you can hold? wow.. if not.. Also.. stand by barrel, cant you hold Shift (or alt) to stand in place and attack at range (again like the 2nd and 3rd?) or is that also missing from Diablo? I know as a range character you HAVE to do that or pretty much die horribly alot :) Only 16 levels? I do remeber one thing about Diablo that stuck out in my mind "WAY TO SHORT!" so 16 level may be correct. I am tempted to fire it up, but am so addicted to 3 right now.. and I supsect some burn out by the time I finish.. But I am pretty sure your trip down memory lane will have me firing it up sometime.

other comments.. NANCY DREW does not deserve the prime head level location!!!!!! :) hehehe next we will see barbie Adventures up there! J/K i do hear they are actually pretty OK games.. but I still think the gold box sets, or even something modern deserves that space :)

Hehe, yeah, I need to redo the shelves. Elizabeth redid them, but I probably should have let her know more about what to show where. It's actually a lot of work putting them together.

You can hold with shift, but I couldn't destroy barrels at range no matter what I tried (magic or arrows). And yes, you do have to click for every attack, though one of my fans pointed out that there's a mod that alters the engine to work like D2 in that respect.

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Paul H
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Wow! I was blown away by how

Wow! I was blown away by how good that town theme is. I completely forgot how much of the mood in Diablo came from the music.

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Anonymous (not verified)
Diablo 3 is pretty good,

Diablo 3 is pretty good, extremely addictive.

The amount of story, narration, detailed menus, fluid combat, a really well made game. Blizzard did an amazing work.
Comparing Diablo 3 (ads campaign) with another kind of RPG, but marketed as a total spectacle, cof.. cof...

Someone already tried the new cof.. cof.. my health...

TES?

The Error Scrolls.
The Erased Scrolls.
The Erection Scrolls.
The Erotic Scrolls.

Because that shit is all about mods for asses and tits, than a great game.

Anonymous (not verified)
It is much better on the

It is much better on the PlayStation. I always regretted that they didn't port Diablo 2 to a console. This kind of hack and slash is much better co-oped on the couch with a friend than it is single player or playing with random strangers on the pc. The control is also better as a controller is far better suited to endless clicks (button pushes) than a mouse.

The gameplay is far too simple and repetitive for single player and quickly bores me, but it is a lot of fun with a partner. Other co-op roguelikes that can be boring solo but fun multiplayer for consoles are:

Champions of Norrath
Champions Return to Arms
Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance
Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance 2
Justice League Heroes
Xmen Legends
Xmen Legends 2
Sacred 2
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2

If you like Diablo, I'd recommend any of the above titles as they are all closely related.

Bill Loguidice
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Disagree
Anonymous wrote:

It is much better on the PlayStation. I always regretted that they didn't port Diablo 2 to a console. This kind of hack and slash is much better co-oped on the couch with a friend than it is single player or playing with random strangers on the pc. The control is also better as a controller is far better suited to endless clicks (button pushes) than a mouse.

The gameplay is far too simple and repetitive for single player and quickly bores me, but it is a lot of fun with a partner. Other co-op roguelikes that can be boring solo but fun multiplayer for consoles are:

Champions of Norrath ...

If you like Diablo, I'd recommend any of the above titles as they are all closely related.

Have you played the Diablo series on PC or just on console? It's a fundamentally different experience from the games you quoted. In the Diablo games (and true Diablo clones), you click to where you want to go or on what you want to do. Champions of Norrath, Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance, etc., on console, are all directly controlled like any other videogame character. I'm a HUGE fan of well-done action RPGs like the games you mentioned - and indeed, those are preferable on console because they're designed as console games and are wonderful co-op experiences - but you couldn't be more wrong about the Diablo series on PC. It's not any better or worse than the other play style, it's just different, but it's definitely a superb experience. The Diablo series is also a superb single player experience, whereas I'll argue that the charm to the console action RPGs is more in the multiplayer experience, i.e., it's more important to the fun factor.

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Anonymous (not verified)
I have played both. The

I have played both.

The interface is slightly different like you mentioned, but better in my opinion on a console. The style of game play is much more suited to a controller than a mouse. Rather than endless clicks you steer with the game pad and attack with a button, which seems very natural.

Granted the graphics and animation are slightly tuned down (as someone mentioned below) for the PlayStation, but the local co-op more than makes up for that. I've never been that fixated on graphics anyway and it still looks good on the PS1 in my opinion.

I'm sure its just a matter of preference, but I could never get into Diablo or its clones playing solo. It's just too repetitive and uninteresting for me. Anyway. that is why I prefer the PlayStation version.

Nathaniel Tolbert
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I disagree as well

I have played both the Playstation and the PC version and I have to disagree about Diablo being better on the playstation. There seems to be missing animations on various aspects in the Playstation version as well as weird loading times and clipped sound. The last two may have been my failing PS1 though. I have to say I'm suprised they did as well of a port as they did considering how much lower powered a Playstation was to the minimum PC requirements. Also with the PS1 version you could get the terribad Sierra expansion called Hellfire!

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Matt Barton
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I didn't even know there was

I didn't even know there was a PS1 version. That's pretty unusual for Blizzard. I guess they're one of the few companies left that really do cater to the PC/Mac crowd rather than the consoles.

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clok1966
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maybe
Matt Barton wrote:

I didn't even know there was a PS1 version. That's pretty unusual for Blizzard. I guess they're one of the few companies left that really do cater to the PC/Mac crowd rather than the consoles.

I am probebly wrong, but Blizz sort of game up consoles about WoW success time, they had several games on consoles before that. I dont think any of the RTS games made it.. but DUNE II (yes i know this was westwood, but blizz felt RTS wont work on consoles, i just mention as it did work and htey soon followed with theirs) was on genisis and other then fast move on map it was a petty good game.. no where near as nice as Mouse /keyboard for us PC guys but I know my roomate could play it lightning fast on the genny.The good news, Blizz has (from my reading) one console only game comming ( my guess Ghost will be revived).

lost vikings, Blackthorn, Warcraft II (pc and Satrun/Playstation) Death and Return of superman(console only), Justice League(console only), Lost Vikings II Starcraft (N64)

Diablo II and Warcraft II is about when they quit consoles.

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