{"id":2765,"date":"2016-01-10T16:32:11","date_gmt":"2016-01-10T21:32:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/?p=2765"},"modified":"2016-01-10T16:33:10","modified_gmt":"2016-01-10T21:33:10","slug":"review-pdp-ps3-versus-controller-plus-additional-new-retro-freak-console-information","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/2016\/01\/10\/review-pdp-ps3-versus-controller-plus-additional-new-retro-freak-console-information\/","title":{"rendered":"Review: PDP PS3 Versus Controller (plus additional new Retro Freak console information)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I bought the <a href=\"http:\/\/amzn.to\/1JryhSw\" target=\"_blank\">PDP PS3 Versus Controller<\/a> specifically to use with the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.play-asia.com\/search\/retro+freak?affiliate_id=214762\" target=\"_blank\">Retro Freak console<\/a> from Cyber Gadget that <a href=\"https:\/\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/2015\/12\/30\/review-cyber-gadget-retro-freak-plays-games-from-16-different-videogame-systems-includes-videos\/\" target=\"_blank\">I reviewed here<\/a>, although this can of course be used with an actual PlayStation 3, PC, or other devices that can utilize standard USB controllers. As you&#8217;ll note from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.play-asia.com\/search\/retro+freak?affiliate_id=214762\" target=\"_blank\">Retro Freak<\/a> review, while I really liked the overall console hardware, I wasn&#8217;t totally enamored with the quality of the included Super NES-like controller and, while I don&#8217;t mind using a standard first party <a href=\"http:\/\/amzn.to\/1R96BTL\" target=\"_blank\">Sony PS3 controller<\/a>, I was looking for something a bit more purpose-built (the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.play-asia.com\/search\/retro+freak?affiliate_id=214762\" target=\"_blank\">Retro Freak<\/a> doesn&#8217;t make use of analog sticks, for instance).<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2770\" style=\"width: 1786px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2770\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2770\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0066.jpg?resize=1776%2C1856\" alt=\"The front of the box.\" width=\"1776\" height=\"1856\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0066.jpg?w=1776&amp;ssl=1 1776w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0066.jpg?resize=144%2C150&amp;ssl=1 144w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0066.jpg?resize=287%2C300&amp;ssl=1 287w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0066.jpg?resize=768%2C803&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0066.jpg?resize=980%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 980w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2770\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The front of the box.<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_2771\" style=\"width: 1676px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2771\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2771\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0067.jpg?resize=1666%2C1764\" alt=\"The back of the box.\" width=\"1666\" height=\"1764\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0067.jpg?w=1666&amp;ssl=1 1666w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0067.jpg?resize=142%2C150&amp;ssl=1 142w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0067.jpg?resize=283%2C300&amp;ssl=1 283w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0067.jpg?resize=768%2C813&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0067.jpg?resize=967%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 967w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2771\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The back of the box.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The packaging is interesting in that you can access the d-pad and buttons. It&#8217;s very clicky, very noisy, and does this fan of mechanical keyboards proud. The d-pad is a bit like an analog stick, very loose, but very clicky; as a result, it moves extremely easily. The buttons are also super sensitive to presses.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2772\" style=\"width: 1760px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2772\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2772\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0069.jpg?resize=1750%2C1536\" alt=\"The inside of the box.\" width=\"1750\" height=\"1536\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0069.jpg?w=1750&amp;ssl=1 1750w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0069.jpg?resize=150%2C132&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0069.jpg?resize=300%2C263&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0069.jpg?resize=768%2C674&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0069.jpg?resize=1024%2C899&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2772\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The inside of the box.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Setup on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.play-asia.com\/search\/retro+freak?affiliate_id=214762\" target=\"_blank\">Retro Freak<\/a> was relatively straightforward. It saw the controller as a standard USB controller and then it was just a matter of mapping the buttons with a custom profile in each of the supported systems.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2773\" style=\"width: 1580px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2773\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2773\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0070.jpg?resize=1570%2C1260\" alt=\"The front of the controller.\" width=\"1570\" height=\"1260\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0070.jpg?w=1570&amp;ssl=1 1570w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0070.jpg?resize=150%2C120&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0070.jpg?resize=300%2C241&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0070.jpg?resize=768%2C616&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0070.jpg?resize=1024%2C822&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2773\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The front of the controller.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Unfortunately, while it&#8217;s a pretty nice controller, it&#8217;s not necessarily something I&#8217;d recommend for classic console games like you play on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.play-asia.com\/search\/retro+freak?affiliate_id=214762\" target=\"_blank\">Retro Freak<\/a>. The feel of the controller is unique in a way that really doesn&#8217;t make it quite as versatile as a more traditional plus-style d-pad and non-microswitch button design. In fact, while I like the responsiveness of the unique d-pad, the buttons, while sufficiently reactive, have an odd feel, making super fast button presses a bit of a sloppier experience than I usually like.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2774\" style=\"width: 1844px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2774\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2774\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0071.jpg?resize=1834%2C1260\" alt=\"The rear of the controller. It has a nice, tacky surface on the back.\" width=\"1834\" height=\"1260\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0071.jpg?w=1834&amp;ssl=1 1834w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0071.jpg?resize=150%2C103&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0071.jpg?resize=300%2C206&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0071.jpg?resize=768%2C528&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/armchairarcade.com\/perspectives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/DSC_0071.jpg?resize=1024%2C704&amp;ssl=1 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2774\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The rear of the controller. It has a nice, tacky surface on the back.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Some additional information came to light in regards to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.play-asia.com\/search\/retro+freak?affiliate_id=214762\" target=\"_blank\">Retro Freak<\/a> both from my own experimentation and in my discussions with other owners. It seems that Sega SG-1000 support is not yet implemented, which might be why the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.play-asia.com\/retro-freak-gear-converter-for-game-gear-sega-mark-iii-sg-1000-\/13\/709flf\" target=\"_blank\">Retro Freak Gear Converter<\/a> is delayed into next month (when mine arrives, I&#8217;ll post a review). Presumably a firmware update will be available by then to make both adapted cartridges and regular ROMs work.<\/p>\n<p>I also confirmed that the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.play-asia.com\/retro-freak-controller-adapter\/13\/708vvx?affiliate_id=214762\" target=\"_blank\">Retro Freak Controller Adapter<\/a> can be loaded up with legacy controllers on all of its available ports, with each registering individually on the console. It also works perfectly well on a PC (I tested in Windows 10), with each port registering as its own USB controller (although they&#8217;re all generically labeled the same, so you&#8217;ll need to figure out which controller port goes to the specific controller or controllers you have plugged in).<\/p>\n<p>Finally, I actually got a wireless controller to work on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.play-asia.com\/search\/retro+freak?affiliate_id=214762\" target=\"_blank\">Retro Freak<\/a>, albeit with some caveats. I had a second generation OnLive controller, which was different from the first generation OnLive controller in that the first generation only works with the now-defunct OnLive console, while the second generation OnLive controller is more of a generic Bluetooth controller. I plugged in the wireless USB dongle into the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.play-asia.com\/search\/retro+freak?affiliate_id=214762\" target=\"_blank\">Retro Freak<\/a> and the controller was immediately controlling the menus. Even the left analog stick worked, although use of it in a game caused malfunction. Unfortunately, in the case of button mapping (it has a SNES-style button layout, with two shoulder bumpers and two shoulder triggers), not all of the buttons work correctly, so it doesn&#8217;t really work right for games that require more than three buttons, and really is only ideal for two button games because of what buttons work properly with that layout. It&#8217;s a pity, but at least it shows that some type of wireless solution should be possible at some point, and maybe one even exists already.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I bought the PDP PS3 Versus Controller specifically to use with the Retro Freak console from Cyber Gadget that I reviewed here, although this can of course be used with an actual PlayStation 3, PC, or other devices that can utilize standard USB controllers. 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