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Review: Cyber Gadget Retro Freak (plays games from 17 videogame systems) (includes videos)

Cyber Gadget Retro Freak Premium
Cyber Gadget Retro Freak Premium

Review: Cyber Gadget Retro Freak (plays games from 17 videogame systems) (includes videos)

December 30, 2015 Posted by Bill Loguidice Review 14 Comments

Introduction

Although I’m an enthusiastic fan of the Hyperkin RetroN 5, which plays original cartridges from the NES, Famicom, Super NES, Super Famicom, Genesis, Mega Drive, Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance, and Sega Master System (with a Power Base Converter or equivalent) in glorious HD, it’s not without its frustrations. Perhaps the biggest of those frustrations is that there’s no easy and official way to play flash-based multi-carts or run ROMs. It’s strictly for playing original cartridges. That’s why the Japanese Retro Freak console from Cyber Gadget had me so excited. Not only does the Retro Freak do many of the same things that the RetroN 5 does, it can also run ROMs directly from an optional microSD or microSDHC card (up to 32GB, although you’ll read later why a card of that size is not necessarily all that useful at this point).

The box for the Premium edition.

The box for the Premium edition.

The mix of systems for the Retro Freak is a bit different from the RetroN 5. The Retro Freak plays original cartridges and ROMs for the Famicom, Super NES, Super Famicom, Genesis, Mega Drive, Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Game Boy Advance, Super Game Boy, TurboGrafx-16, PC Engine, PC Engine SuperGrafx, and, with an adapter if you want to play physical cartridges, NES, Game Gear, Sega Master System, Mark III, and SG-1000. Interestingly, unlike the RetroN 5, the Retro Freak is not entirely self contained, with, for instance, the tiny main unit inserting into a larger shell for when you want to use cartridges (its total size is still smaller than the RetroN 5) and the controller adapter to use a single original controller (versus two ports built into the RetroN 5 for each of its main supported systems) for the SNES, Famicom, NES, PC Engine, and Sega Genesis/Mega Drive an optional add-on outside of the Premium model. A further deviation from the RetroN 5 is the lack of a wireless controller option (there are rumors of third party Bluetooth adapters from 8Bitdo in development), with only a lightweight, wired controller modeled somewhat after the Super NES/Super Famicom included, although you can plug in many USB adaptable controllers, both classic and modern, including Sony PlayStation 3 and 4 DualShock gamepads.

Although the Retro Freak is available from a variety of sellers on eBay, the most cost effective and reliable method is to do what I did for the Premium model and get it from Play-Asia, which was only recently able to meet the incredible demand for the product with sufficient stock levels. Play-Asia stocks the Retro Freak Standard, Retro Freak Premium, Retro Freak Gear Converter (for adapting Sega Game Gear, Mark III, and SG-1000 cartridges), Retro Freak Controller Adapter (which comes with the Premium set), and a Retro Freak AC Adapter (in case you want another one; note that this is the same type of adapter used on the Sony PSP and devices like the indispensable XRGB-mini Framemeister). Although you’ll pay a premium for the FedEx shipping option at Play-Asia, the fact that you’ll get your delivery in a few days helps make up for it (just be sure to have someone present to sign for the package).

What you get with the Premium edition.

What you get with the Premium edition.

The Retro Freak comes with the console itself, a short HDMI cable, and an AC adapter (it’s universal, so it works fine in both Japan and North America). If you got the Retro Freak Premium like I did, you also get the controller adapter box and miniUSB cable for connecting it to the console.

Starting Out

When you first start the Retro Freak, it helpfully gives you a choice of language. I of course chose English. It also prompted me to automatically update the RetroFreak Cartridge Adapter. And that was that. You can see the whole process in the absolutely unexciting video that follows:

 

I then went into Settings and set it up the way I like it. You can see that and my play session from the Sqoon Famicom cartridge I inserted:

 
 

Unfortunately, Sqoon‘s performance was miserable. I decided to go into System settings and request a firmware update. I took the microSD card and inserted it into my computer. I then followed the instructions here to get the update. Unfortunately, after multiple tries, I always got the “<< ERROR >> Invalid update request (bad magic)” error.

The main part of the console sitting on top of the bottom of the cartridge unit.

The main part of the console sitting on top of the bottom of the cartridge unit.

As it turned out, I was using a microSD card that wasn’t newly formatted, i.e., it had stuff on it. Obviously, the Retro Freak didn’t like that. Once I fixed that issue with a fresh format, I was able to both dump a cartridge (Wildtrax for the Super Famicom) and write a working update request. I’m now on system version 1.4. You can see the update process in the video:

 
 

As you can also see in that second video, I put a random Genesis ROM (Streets of Rage) in a sub-folder under Games to see if I’m able to organize ROMs in that manner. Fortunately, I am. As you can also see, Wildtrax performed reasonably well, although there was some glitching in the in-game menu. After the firmware update, Sqoon clearly worked much better, although I find the performance of the game on the RetroN 5 superior.

ROMs off microSD

My next task was to load up my microSD card with some additional ROM sub-folders for the various other systems it’s supposed to support. With lots of ROMs, even in sub-folders, it does seem to take the system several minutes to parse and make them accessible, which is frustrating.

 

On a subsequent start-up, it didn’t even find the same microSD card, so I’m thinking it got corrupted, even though there were no signs of it. Other times, it would just endlessly try to parse the games without giving me access to the microSD card. Instead of trying to work with an overstuffed microSD card, I just reformatted the card and decided to put just a handful of ROMs for each system to finish my testing:

 

What this sluggishness with too many ROMs means is that this system is not a good solution at present for those of us who want to have large numbers of ROMs accessible. With that said, with a more modest collection of ROMs, I have no complaints with how quickly it parses and loads the listing, as you can see in the previous video. And even though it clearly has issues with running some ROMs correctly, other ROMs like Virtua Racing for the Sega Genesis that give other systems fits, works well here.

The console inserted into the cartridge unit.

The console inserted into the cartridge unit.

Unfortunately, I couldn’t get any SG-1000 ROMs to run (with .sg extension), and I don’t have an adapter to try one of my SG-1000 cartridges. I don’t know why it doesn’t work.

While I didn’t load any SuperGrafx ROMs in that previous video, I did put in a SuperGrafx cartridge so I could show every system it supports.

The Controller

The included wired controller is OK, but seems to lack some precision and responsiveness. While the Bluetooth RetroN 5 eventually grew on me after my initial hatred of it, I’m not sure this one will have the same unexpected recovery. The build quality just doesn’t seem to be there. I suspect when I’m not using a classic system’s controller, I’ll be using a PS3 or PS4 controller, which seems to work fine, although only with the d-pad and not the analog stick(s) (I only tested a PS3 controller, since I had it handy after testing the disappointing PlayStation TV).

The Retro Freak Controller Adapter

I happened to have a copy of the Famicom version of Arkanoid II, complete with paddle controller, ready to go. I plugged both the cartridge and Famicom controller into their respective slots and turned the system on. It loaded the game just fine and, surprisingly, the controller worked beautifully (in the first video, without scanlines, it picked up where I left off, which is a nice feature of the system):

 

Conclusion

It still seems to be early days for this console. In its present state, it’s tough to fully recommend considering the RetroN 5 can presently be had for so much less money in a more complete configuration. The main advantage that the Retro Freak has outside of TurboGrafx-16, PC Engine, and PC Engine SuperGrafx support is its ability to rip cartridges to microSD, as well as run ROMs from microSD, ripped or otherwise. Unfortunately, it’s this latter experience that is the biggest let-down of its enormous potential at present, since you have to carefully manage the number of ROMs you have on your microSD card. Nevertheless, when it works, it works well, and the ROM thing, however limited, is still a critical differentiator. As such, if you have the money to invest in this and any relevant adapters or add-ons, it’s presently the only such system of its type available with this overall feature-set.

How the Premium edition looks all hooked up.

How the Premium edition looks all hooked up.

Naturally, if its niggly issues get resolved with future firmware updates, I’ll be sure to do a follow-up review.

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  • Bart
    · Reply

    April 13, 2016 at 1:35 AM

    Thanks for the review! Quick question: I read that on the Retron 5, after you put in a cartridge and save games to the HD, you can then re-upload the saves to the original cartridge. Is that something you can do with the Retro Freak as well?

    • Bill Loguidice
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      April 13, 2016 at 7:52 AM

      That’s a good question. Unfortunately, it’s not something I’ve tried myself, so I’m not really sure. Since it’s more or less the same type of functionality as the RetroN 5, it should work, but it’s best to double-check for yourself if that’s going to be a requirement for you. Sorry I couldn’t provide more help.

      • Bart
        · Reply

        April 13, 2016 at 10:06 AM

        That’s okay. I wouldn’t call it a deal breaker for me, but I’m wondering if it would allow a Pokemon cheat. My thought was, you could upload a GBA Pokemon save onto the cartridge, transfer your captured Pokemon to the online PokeBank, then erase the save and upload from the Retro Freak again. In theory you could have infinite number of copies of your captured Pokemon. Curious if it’d work.

  • Matthew
    · Reply

    April 23, 2016 at 5:20 AM

    Hi Bill quick question you mentioned that the ac adapter is universal does that mean it would be safe to run through a 240v (I’m in Australia) power with just a pin converter and no step down transformer?

    • Bill Loguidice
      · Reply

      Author
      April 23, 2016 at 7:39 AM

      Yes, it maxes out at 240v, so you’d be good.

      • Matthew
        · Reply

        April 23, 2016 at 7:59 AM

        Awesome I’ve been trying to find an answer to that thanks! 🙂

  • Andy
    · Reply

    August 21, 2016 at 6:39 AM

    Does this ‘Retro Freak’ console play MAME roms? I don’t understand as for why seemingly no one has ever bothered to ask this question before. I would have to presume probably not, because I don’t see an answer to this anywhere, and neither have I found the terms ‘MAME’ and ‘Retro Freak’ on the same web page?

    Based upon what I’ve read here, it seems as though this ‘Retro Freak’ game console may be a low-end, over-priced piece of junk. If what I interpreted is correct, that this console doesn’t even have suitable capability to allow the user to efficiently browse through an extensive rom library, without being too excessively slow or problematic – then this functionality is almost useless, and the whole thing is just about an over-priced piece of garbage.

    • Bill Loguidice
      · Reply

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      August 21, 2016 at 7:02 AM

      No, MAME is not one of the supported platforms. It’s actually excellent hardware that has received several updates since I wrote this review. It’s not cheap, but nothing else does quite what this does in quite the way it does it.

  • Andy
    · Reply

    August 22, 2016 at 11:25 AM

    How much better, if any, is this ‘Retro Freak’ in comparison with the ‘Retron 5?’ Your review indicated that this ‘Retro Freak,’ although capable of playing supported roms from memory card, “out of the box” – has such a lousy user interface navigation function, simply in terms of selecting from stored roms, and supposedly it is so slow and problematic, that you recommend connecting a memory card with only just a few roms, is this correct? If so, this deficiency is pretty lame, lousy and retarded. Presumably, the makers of this ‘Retro Freak’ haven’t yet even bothered to afford a firmware update to fix this yet, right? Do you think they might ever?

    Now, in terms of this deficiency, in the slowness and lousiness of this ‘Retro Freak’s’ user interface navigation capability, in terms of browsing roms stored on the memory card – I would like to know, how much better is the Retron 5 in this respect (if, at all?,) after the necessary, available software modifications have been installed enabling this console to play supported roms from the memory card? -Thank you.

    • Bill Loguidice
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      August 22, 2016 at 11:50 AM

      It’s much more expensive than the RetroN 5, particularly when you add one or two controller docks and what-not, but it does indeed do more. The UI and other features have seen improvements since I’ve done my review thanks to regular firmware updates (similar to the RetroN 5). It’s quite good now.

      My recommendation is to NOT load an SD card with every ROM known to exist. Pick a few hundred favorites per system and you’ll be much better off. and won’t have any real delays when accessing the contents on the SD card. Keep in mind that the way the Retro Freak works is quite different than the RetroN 5. Without hacks, the RetroN 5 is designed to JUST play original cartridges. The Retro Freak is designed to work with both cartridges and ROMs by default, and in fact it’s very easy to rip your entire cartridge collection, something that again a non-hacked RetroN 5 doesn’t even offer.

      The main advantages that the RetroN 5 has over the Retro Freak are as follows:

      – Lower price
      – Built-in Genesis/NES/SNES controller ports (two each)
      – US-centric cartridge ports
      – Stock wireless controller

      The Retro Freak on the other hand supports many more systems and allows use of ROMs (and ripping of your own cartridges so you don’t need to plug them in each time you want to play)(, and, even though it’s an added cost, the controller adapter supports many more original controller types.

      When you get right down to it, the RetroN 5 and Retro Freak are very different offerings. Despite the higher cost of entry, once set up, the Retro Freak blows the doors off of what the RetroN 5 is ultimately capable of.

  • Andy
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    August 22, 2016 at 2:52 PM

    Hello, thank you. In regard to:

    “Despite the higher cost of entry, once set up, the Retro Freak blows the doors off of what the RetroN 5 is ultimately capable of.”

    Other than for the additional support for cartridges of more game systems, I am afraid that I don’t really see a huge difference. Yes, it has that convenient functionality to download and store the rom from an inserted cartridge, thereby negating any subsequent need to plug it back in – however, I don’t see as for how this, in most conceivable instances (games) might likely to be different than simply having most all SNES, NES and Sega Genesis game roms stored in a memory card inserted into a properly software-modified RetroN 5?

    In terms of the gaming systems supported by these two consoles (the ‘Retro Freak,’ and ‘RetroN 5’) – As for myself, I may personally largely only care about the SNES, NES, and Sega Genesis game system categories; the others, I quite possibly may never otherwise utilize. -That is just me, so at least in this respect for myself, although I wouldn’t mind the convenience of this additional capability, considering that I probably may never use it, this in itself (at least, for my purposes) surely doesn’t justify paying an additional $100 or so dollars.

    Now… As far as I can see here at the moment, this additional cartridge system compatibility afforded by the ‘Retro Freak’ is the only real value I happen to notice, at least at the moment, in relation to the supposed advantages of this ‘Retro Freak’ over the ‘RetroN 5,’ having been suitably software-modified.

    In regard to “…the RetroN 5 and Retro Freak are very different offerings,” I would say this primary difference, at least as many may be concerned, may be the inflated cost of the Retro Freak, as well as the fact that you supposedly have to spend even more money to buy an adapter to utilize original system controllers because the Retro Freak, unlike the RetroN 5, doesn’t have some of these basic, commonly-utilized controller inputs (SNES, NES, Sega Genesis.)

    If my analysis here is in any way incorrect, please so advise.

    There was one question I had presented, and as which I might think to be relevant in comparing these two consoles, which you did not answer. This question is (once more,)

    “Now, in terms of this deficiency, in the slowness and lousiness of this ‘Retro Freak’s’ user interface navigation capability, in terms of browsing roms stored on the memory card – I would like to know, how much better is the Retron 5 in this respect (if, at all?,) after the necessary, available software modifications have been installed enabling this console to play supported roms from the memory card?”

    -Thank you.

    • Bill Loguidice
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      Author
      August 22, 2016 at 3:07 PM

      Since I haven’t and have no interest in modding my RetroN 5, I have no basis for comparison in terms of how quickly it catalogs an excessive number of ROMs versus the Retro Freak (which has a delay at power up if there are huge numbers of ROMs stored on the SD card and then no delay once it’s done; I don’t know if the RetroN 5 has a delay, period).

      Look, I like the RetroN 5, but there’s really no comparison here in my opinion. If you’re happy with your RetroN 5, so be it. If there was no Retro Freak, the RetroN 5 would be an easy recommendation, and was a recommendation of mine prior to the Retro Freak.

      Question… When modding the RetroN 5, can you expand the number of systems it works with? There’s actually an undocumented feature in the Retro Freak that allows it to run Famicom disk software in addition to all of the other systems and variations it supports. In any case, PC Engine/TG-16/SuperGrafx emulation is a strong selling point for the Retro Freak. There are some fantastic games in that format. I particularly love playing the SuperGrafx version of Ghouls ‘N Ghosts on it.

  • Pete
    · Reply

    December 16, 2016 at 11:58 PM

    Have you used many other controllers with this?
    I could not get the 8bitdo SFC30 game pad to work over usb.

    I also had trouble with a GN6 3rd party 6 button sega controller. I tried two of them. Thought it might be my adapter but a friends real Sega 6 button controller worked fine. I’d love to get a 6 button sega like controller that worked if you know of a brand that works.

    • Bill Loguidice
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      December 17, 2016 at 3:18 PM

      Yes: https://armchairarcade.com/perspectives/2016/08/09/review-8bitdo-snes30-gamepad-retro-receiver-snes/

      I’ve had no issues with a variety of controllers and configurations.

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